Lake Ming race in Bakersfield

SCSC racing is offering the COR Boats another chance to race in Bakersfield in March. The dates are the 7th and 8th of March, still a ways off, but time flies when you are repairing your boat. Also in the offing is a SCOA race the following weekend also near Bakersfield but not at Lake Ming, but at Buena Vista Aquatic Park. The initial email sent referenced some kind of endurance race with Div 2 (COR) boats and GN boats, so I would expect the "Non roll bar" boats would be legal as they are in the 336 Enduro. I assume this would not be a points race, but I think anything is possible.

Because of our small numbers I would like to suggest that legal COR boat owners make some kind of commitment, even a tentative one on whether they would like to race one or both, or heaven forbid none. Anybody with a DIV 2 boat might consider racing at Buena Vista even if they are not legal in COR.

So who is up for some racing in March.....??

Baker343's picture

Just wondering if we have a Race Schedule for 2015.
Short course and or Marathon's

flying finn's picture

As far as I know, Ming is on for 3-7/8. I am planning on being there.

05's picture

# 04 is in. For Ming and Buena Vista!

Capnzee88's picture

Does anyone plan to put their legal COR boat in the L.A. boat show? Greg, you have one of the prettiest and live the closest--How about you? Rod

Propman's picture

I will be at Lake Ming, who else?

Rod??

Mike??

Keith???

Who's got a new roll bar they want to "break in?" The 234 is ready to race. Emilio has a new steering system on the blue Baker, he was by the shop and fired up the Mexican fire breather, after the smoke cleared I'm sure there won't be any mosquitos in Henderson for quite some time. So the Las Vegas contingent is ready to rumble.

Capnzee88's picture

I may have a grand daughters birthday conflicting but I am busy working on the wiring of the 88 boat in an attempt to be ready just in case. Bakersfield is one of the best lakes in the United States for APBA racing. I would hate to miss it. My wife says "family first". I talked to Greg and I believe he will be there, making a "class". Rod

Baker343's picture

Unfortunately the Baker wont make it. Fiberglass repairs are complete and waiting for bottom paint. Good luck at Ming.

Capnzee88's picture

Who needs stinking bottom paint? You gonna leave it in the water?

Baker343's picture

The Baker is off the trailer and upside down. A lot of years racing has taken its toll. Had to repair the entire center sponson and pulled out about 30 lbs of bad wood. Thought I would take this opportunity to make the Baker safer to drive while representing our class. Maybe some speed paint is needed so I can try to keep up with you and the front runners.

007's picture

Looks like she is running good. Is that with the speed paint?

Capnzee88's picture

I don't think you could ask for a nicer ride than you are getting . Can you post a blow=up? That is sweet!

Baker343's picture

Thanks. Here's a picture of the Baker at the 86 Havasu Classic. Finishing up some work before gelcoat. Anticipate making all future races.

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flying finn's picture

The 128 is in. I guess we have another 3 boat show. Let's get you other boys out in the water soon!

05's picture

the #04, the #128, and the #134 only.

Capnzee88's picture

#88 boat will not be there! Friday,- best friend goes into hospital for heart operation, Saturday- birthday party for grand daughter, Sunday- burial services for very close friend. Good luck, with just 3 boats all should go well. Rod

flying finn's picture

I just my race gas secret order from the Compton Airport with the help of Rod. They wanted my airplane tail #. I said FF128 and hit the gas pedal going out the gate.

Propman's picture

Here is the one and only video from the shore.

http://youtu.be/Mz1Y2F7nj8k

Some tight racing until the end.

Baker343's picture

Looks like some good racing, wish I could have been there to add to the competition. Looks like the 04 fell off a little or 234 found another gear.

Propman's picture

It turns out that Emilio did have some trouble with a bad battery, and his trim stopped working on the last lap. He fell off the pace and nearly got passed up by Greg at the finish line. Emilio said it looked like I was sandbagging, but a close look would reveal that I drove most of the race in lane three only moving over into lane two at the very end of the race. It was some very close racing as all three boats were well matched in top speed so the race was won or lost in the corners and the starts.

flying finn's picture

I admit that was the worst start ever. Ross advised us on the proper way to start and we got much better after being "re educated" on the flag start. Over all, a great weekend. I did come back and get a 2nd and 1st on Sunday to win on points for Sunday, but Kevin again won first for the weekend, followed by me for 2nd, then Emilio for third. I too had to switch out batteries at the last minute, deal with no operable trim for race three, then fixed the trim pump line to win on the fourth race. Thanks to all the COR team for helping me out with the racing gremblins. As Kevin said, it was close racing and being on the pole position was where you had to be to win.

Capnzee88's picture

With 3 boats and you draw for start lane, then have a flag start, with no lane changes, why even run the race? The race is over before the start, unless your engine quits. Check the final results! With a clock start, half the race is jockeying for position, then making the final run for a good clock start. The clock start does in fact require an element of skill, perhaps beyond that of some racers. The clock start is safer as it certainly separates those who can and those that can't make it to the first turn where things can get very "busy" when everyone arrives at the same time as in "flag starts". This is the only place I have ever seen a consistance of flag starts. You won't see much of it anywhere else in the country so if you ever decide you would prefer to leave the "locals" and go racing, you had better learn the "secrets" of clock starts. Not at all trying to be negative, just trying to tell you that you are out of national boat racing and well behind the clock when you choose flag starts. If I were race chairman, I would never give you the option. Been there done that, time to "grow up". Rod

STV_Keith's picture

That attitude right there is why the race promoters are not fans of the COR class. Ross has said it time and time again that the "parade of boats" usually afforded by the COR class on a clock start, is just flat boring to watch. Great time for a bathroom break. Ross has given the COR class the option a few times in the past, and the class chose to do what Ross (and he claims the fans) wanted to see...a flag start, where there is more likely to be a competitive race.

Keith-

Propman's picture

I think flag starts are probably the safest way to start, since we agreed to stay in our lanes until the end of the straight away. It also gives the inexperienced racer a chance to start from lane one. This won't happen when clock starts are the norm until the inexperienced racer "figures out the clock start" Sometimes it will take an inexperienced racer a whole season to get the clock down, in the mean time the fast guys are mostly just discouraging the slower starters. I am comfortable doing both, and I believe that I would have a distinct advantage in a small field doing clock starts, that is why I am voting for flag starts. I don't believe that the lane you start from is the place you finish, in fact in Bakersfield I won the first three heats from lane three in heat one, lane one in heat two, lane two in heat three. Yes there was some luck involved, and yes if the field is evenly matched, it sure helps to be in lane one at the start.

I had some good fun in the heats that I had to start in lane two or three, as I was chasing Emilio and "duking it out" for most of the race. Unless you rarely find yourself in front, it is not as much fun as a "dogfight" in the field somewhere behind the leader. I would think that the way F1 races are staged would be the most challenging to those hungry for competition. F1 starts the first heat according to current points standing (boring) but then alternates the starting order such that the slowest boats start in the best lanes, with the fastest boats starting last. Now the faster boats have to work their way through the field, it makes for some great racing.

Baker343's picture

I thought we were holding our lanes through and out of the first corner? My second race at Stockton as a inexperienced newbie (a clock start race) I was able to remember what lane I was assigned and I believe I was in the top three to the first correct pin on at least one race. "Beginners luck"

Unfortunately my inexperience was unable to identify a carburation problem that a least two other COR boats had while trailering our boats to Stockton. The experienced one's I guess were unwilling to share their experience. That racing right?

My 4th race, Turkey weekend 2013 I was somehow able to hold off a experienced racer for one race. As the last driver in to the COR family I can tell you the experienced ones aren't exactly bending over backwards to share their much valued experience. Is that racing?
This inexperienced one thinks clock starts are like having two races in one, a start race and a finish race. This inexperienced one thinks Rod is right. I may be Inexperienced at racing but not blind to the obvious. As a class/group we have no direction, complain to much and are looked upon as a problem that wont go away. The experienced one's need to figure out a better way to promote/save our Class.

STV_Keith's picture

Stockton/Valley Springs Reservoir was a bitch. I know we fought to find all 6 cylinders for the first 3 races. Lost the trim in one too. You weren't the only guy having issues there. Maybe it's a Keith thing. :)

Keith-

flying finn's picture

Only one class had a clock start at Bakersfield. We drew for lanes and alternated for three races. Everyone was able to start one race in each position, 1,2,3. Since we had only three boats, for the final heat, race 4, we drew for position again to make it fair. We did maintain our positions thru the second turn bouy at the start and had four safe starts and races. Being overly cautious right now is what we have to do to expand and re grow our class. There have been no complains this year for two races and everyone pitched in to help fix my boat twice at Bakersfield. Clock starts still have lane positions. I have done both starts and have no problem with either. All you got to do is call one of us Keith for help or questions.

Propman's picture

All you need do is ask for help Keith. I have been forthright on this forum, in the pits, and helpful to anyone who asks me for it. If you want some help at the next race, try pitting closer to Team 234, it this point we are too small a group to hang at opposite ends of the pits and only get together on the race course.

Propman's picture

Race video's from Emilio's boat
Heat One
https://youtu.be/vsbISg5ueGo

Heat Two
https://youtu.be/pb8t1GdqzW0

Heat Four
https://youtu.be/i3rB1cZ5amk

Baker343's picture

Nice editing work Kevin. I think it would even be better if you or somebody could combine forward facing footage with some rear racing action. Possibly from multiple boats. Dropping off the Baker today for bottom gelcoat. Planning on putting in some hours at the Blythe race course in a couple weekends.

Propman's picture

Here is a picture of the Cor racers at Lake Ming in Bakersfield. Join us at the next race and have some fun.

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R&R Prop Shop  COR Racers
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The Flying Finn shows who's #1 on Sunday

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R&R Prop Shop  COR Racer
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Propman and the 234 Stoker

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R&R Prop Shop
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Emilio gives the thumbs up to COR boat racing in Bakersfield

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R&R Prop Shop  COR Racer
Baker343's picture

One step closer.

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Trying to figure out picture resizing

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