APBA Region 12 Meeting, November 3, 2012

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APBA's Region 12's meeting is this Saturday, November 3, 2012 at Hill Marine.. 2683 Halladay Street, Santa Ana, CA 92705. (55 Freeway and Dyer).

Noon, Brat served by Bunker Hill.

Ron Hill's picture

Region Meeting

How much tow money would you need to race in Oklahoma??? This will be on the agenda Saturday!

Bunker Hill brats...Maybe give us a "Heads Up" if you are coming.

I just heard JJ Gibbs didn't get to race the Enduro becasue a hurt hand. I'm sorry to hear this. Hope JJ gets wel soon. I know what it is like to be hurt. And I know what it is like to miss a race!

One COR boat is coming to Okla this week. It won't need tow money to race here but how much will it get to come race in California?

Todd Stone

007's picture

I will be there Ron. Walt and Rod mentioned that they may be there are well.

45's picture

Tim and Dave Carranza will be there. Mike are you bringing the shirts?

007's picture

oh yes... bring shirts and parts. going to be a cor parts swap meet.

007's picture

What's going on in Oklahoma? Tow money... I think they have been paying the first mile but we have to reimburse for the last mile. Carranza has been donating the beer but I think that might be run thin over time.

Capnzee88's picture

Do we have a start time for the region meeting? Luke Moore is coming down and would like to attend and meet more of the racers. Rod

007's picture

Meeting will start at noon. Be a little early or Bunker's bbq brats will all be gone.

MooreRacing's picture

We're meeting Apple Valley Marine @ 8:00am, then driving on down to Santa Ana... So how ever long it takes to get down 2'them neck of the woods is when we'll be there! So we might be way early, or given traffic, right on time, but I dought it'll take 3hrs to get there! Then again, you wouldn't think it would take us 4hrs to get home on Fridays, driving from the refinerys to Yucaipa, when I still lived down there!

007's picture

Engine parts and boats were exchanged this Saturday at the annual Region 12 APBA held at Hill Marine. We also discussed the tentative 2013 race schedule, to be posted shortly, which looks like a possible seven races for COR. The group voted on mandatory inspections at each race, more from Rod on this point shortly. Thanks to Bunker for the great BBQ and good seeing many of the COR drivers.

STV_Keith's picture

Are there minutes from the meeting for those that couldn't be there?

Keith-

WALTHOLLIS's picture

They were kept, I'm sure Rod will post them and the details of the post race tear down decision shorty.

Capnzee88's picture

Approximately 15 members and guests attended the short COR meeting that preceeded the Region 12 meeting. The meeting was rather informal however Roberts Rules was called to attention at one time or another during the meeting. COR members only were allowed to vote and they were unanamous in their desire to have the winning boat inspected at every race. The inspection was to be more than the standard 3 point inspection (cyl. head, carb, and prop shaft height). The chief inspector (Roger Carr) agreed to "bone-up" on the COR tech rules and conduct the inspections as requested. It was decided that COR points would be awarded to any COR boat attending an APBA sponsored race that had COR boats on the sanction. This is in accordance with APBA rules concerning points. COR - 100 received a considerable amount of attention. A few of the stalwart 2.0 members expressed interest in going to the COR -100 class due to the higher costs required to "field" a competitive 2.0 boat. The Caranza boys were appointed to head up a committee to study the 100 class rules to ensure that they could not "run away" cost wise. A "claimer" class was mentioned to hold the cost down.
We now have boats in 3 regions with others in Mexico and Canada that are looking at our COR classes with interest, and in fact, running our rules. Region 12 as well as Region 11 has recognized the CORs placing them on the schedules of most of their races. As I brouse my notes, there may be more news, but for now I would like to thank HILL PROPELLERS for the use of their conference room. I would also like to thank the Hill family, with BUNKER in the lead for the great lunch paid for out of his own pocket (to my knowledge). Our own Mike Q was elected as SPECIAL EVENTS chairman. This and more will be brought to you via REGION 12 NEWS. Rod Zapf, COR Chairman

STV_Keith's picture

Hey Rod, in regards to your statement: "The inspection was to be more than the standard 3 point inspection (cyl. head, carb, and prop shaft height). The chief inspector (Roger Carr) agreed to "bone-up" on the COR tech rules and conduct the inspections as requested."

What other inspections are going to take place? Is there anything we need to bring to be ready for these inspections?

Keith-

Capnzee88's picture

I don't think you need anything special, I would just like the inspector to look the engine over to ensure that all parts are OEM, no oxygen additives, legal flywheels, heads to specifications etc. This way there will be no doubt in any of the competition's mind.
The rules are fairly simple and were designed as to not be an inspection nightmare. You should be fine. Rod

007's picture

I would like to suggest that we need to put up money for who ever gets torn down to at least pay for new head gaskets which for the older styler 2.0 liter is $44 bucks aside according to pro marine. So if you want to remove two heads, that would cost the antagonist $88 bucks. With the entry fee, fuel, travel, hotel, ect we are further driving up the costs. We already lost three or four drivers due to costs and others who don't make all race events for the same reason.

Capnzee88's picture

An inspection at any race is up to the discretion of the inspector. If all of the competitors feel that an inspection is not necessary, the inspector may or may not comply. The depth of the inspection is also discretionary. eg. I doubt the inspector would ever "pull" two heads or he may choose not to pull either head. Rod Zapf COR Chairman

WALTHOLLIS's picture

I'll donate the $88 for this weekends race courtesy of medicalplanquotes.com . There you go, problem solved, and we now have corporate sponsors in COR, a step in the right direction.

STV_Keith's picture

Again, I wasn't at the last meeting, so just trying to get it all straight in my head, so sorry if this is redundant...is the plan to have the #1 guy for the weekend torn down or #1-3 or just someone random? Does Roger pick the lucky boat(s)?

Keith-

WALTHOLLIS's picture

It is to be the high points person for the weekend, thats the only person.

STV_Keith's picture

Great, thanks Walt!

Keith-

007's picture

Call it prize money and we may get a few extra boats to show. Might be the first prize money in the history of COR Racing. And why not call it the Founder's Award since the prize matches the 88 on the side of our founders boat.

Capnzee88's picture

Whether or not their is a teardown inspection is up to the referee and the inspector. The COR class cannot govern that unless they want to abide by the protest rules--without a formal protest, they can only express their desires to the proper officials. As far as $88.00. is concerned, this is "bull". I have never heard of two heads pulled unless their is a very good reason. I have several times bolted the heads back on over the old gaskets with no loss of compression/performance. Good luck to all at Parker & review the rules concerning "flat top" pistons. Rod